Dear readers,
Below is a really long comment that I wrote about Jessica Valenti’s new book, Full Frontal Feminism, which sucks. It’s been sparking a lot of debate all over the blogosphere. Among many other things, a male-identified blogger named Queer Dewd has used my comments about it to try and get revenge for a debate he lost with me way back in January.
(Important update: girldetective has written one of the funniest feminist knockout punches, ever. It’s here.)
So, a couple of things. First of all, if you want some constructive feminism, do not pass go: go directly to BlackAmazon’s site or to Bitch Ph.D., or figure out a way to get brownfemipower back in the game. In general, if Queer Dewd is attacking somebody right now, they’re probably worth your time. Thus LittleLight.
If you want to see Truly Outrageous satirizing Valenti, and read the wonderful thread that hooked me into this, go here.
If you want to read the post that made Queer Dewd so angry, it’s here: “On Pitilessness.” If you want to read Queer Dewd losing the follow-up argument, go here.
A good night to you.
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It’s ironic, but now the same thing is happening to these threads that was allegedly happening to Valenti’s book. They’re being characterized without being considered.
Of course it’s frustrating when a new work of unabashed feminism is the target of a lot of criticism from feminists. It’s frustrating — but not as much as the book itself. The criticisms are justified.
You write that the book is meant “to reach out to the younger women who have been scared away from feminism by the conservative backlash and an unsympathetic media.” But all your descriptions of the book emphasize its conversational style. That’s not much of a tactic. Conversational or not, a book that poses an ideological challenge to conservatives is still going to get ignored some places, attacked others. An unsympathetic media is going to latch onto things like Valenti’s tendency to swear, and they’re going to do it from a standpoint unsympathetic to feminism.
You write,
One of the major criticisms is that FFF is ‘fluffy.’ It’s fluffy, apparently, because Jessica curses, writes in a conversational style, and doesn’t introduce some new, ground-breaking piece of feminist thought. By cursing, she is apparently talking down to younger women.
The point is not that Valenti says “fuck.” In some other book, that might work for her. The point is that she uses phrases like “fuck it” or “fuck that” when she can’t figure out something better, which is apparently pretty often. For example, she writes,
And after marveling at the ridiculousness of things like the sexual double standard and the faux-sexy crap that’s forced down your throat, you just learn to say fuck it.
The funny thing about socialization is that if your best weapon against it is the phrase “fuck it,” the old double standards have a way of creeping back in. To be strong, you have to be articulate; to have options, you have to be able to name them.
At a lot of places in this post, you go after various kinds of supposedly inaccessible feminisms. This is one example:
Do I want people to be reading Angela Davis and Catherine MacKinnon and Helene Cixous and bell hooks and Judith Butler? Absolutely. But none of the previously mentioned are particularly good starting points. And we’ve gotta start somewhere. That’s what Jessica’s book offers — a gateway into feminism, a starting point for the unfamiliar, a way to make feminism accessible and relevant to women who otherwise would be turned off by it.
A lot of these are bad test cases. In order to understand Judith Butler, you have to be well-read in more than certain works of feminism; you have to have done some reading in postmodernism. But, more to the point, high school and early college is when a lot of women (and men) find their way to Sylvia Plath, Simone de Beauvoir, Toni Morrison, and Virginia Woolf. In terms of Amazon.com sales, as I pointed out over at Truly Outrageous, both A Room of One’s Own and The Second Sex are holding their own with FFF, despite their venerable age.
Furthermore, a concerted effort has been made to make feminism appear both unhinged and ivory tower-ish. Think of all the movies and television shows where feminism is part of some awful seminar, and the protagonists are glad when the bell rings. Claiming that “Angela Davis isn’t a good starting point” for young feminists equals giving in.
Just as important as these authors, in more than one way, is Ani DiFranco. Ani, back in her glory days, had a huge, rabid, deserved fan base that included a lot of young listeners. She was conversational and foul-mouthed in her lyrics, but she was also as eloquent as she wanted to be. Ani was never forced into compromising the way Valenti did with this cover, because she went out and started her own fucking record company. And (as she’s reminded us in maybe one too many songs) it wasn’t particularly easy. Feministing is a good blog. It’s not beholden. So when I come across a piece of work that has been compromised, I feel no need to stand up and applaud.
So, fine, maybe there’s some resentment or some jealousy. Nothing new to see here. So come up with your own book idea.
First of all, anybody who can read the book has a right to praise or criticize it; anybody who has seen a picture of the cover has a right to judge that. That’s how it works with fiction, with pop culture, with nonfiction, and with books on feminism by Jessica Valenti.
Second, a lot of the impetus behind feminist blogging comes from a dissatisfaction with conventional media. It’s too conservative, too anti-democratic, too uni-directional (book and reader, instead of an open dialogue). The bloggers who are criticizing Valenti do have a different idea, and it’s called blogging. We all know that Valenti’s book comes pretty hard on the heels of her editorial calling for older feminists to make room, and it’s hard to escape the feeling that she means for her. Then a series of bloggers, all of whom are investing time into blogging networks, and often taking risks for the sake of that writing, are being told to keep quiet about an infuriating book unless they can get a publishing contract. A lot of them reject what that contract might force on them, in terms of style, content, and notoriety. A lot of them reject a top-down, hierarchical model of what feminist solidarity means. They’re making room, instead of telling others to get out of the way.
There isn’t anything in her book that anyone seems to disagree with — rather, people are objecting to what she left out, or how she presented the material.
These are two of the most important cultural objections in feminism: sexist societies leave things out all the time, or send mixed messages because of the way they present material. Something may claim to be “feminist,” or at least “empowering,” in order to raise sales or evade criticism. Valenti’s vague pronouncements frequently boil down to not taking shit and doing it your way, which is already an American mantra, and not empowering to anybody. She tells the whole story of “Boobgate,” which is specific to the point of being irrelevant, and then concludes, “So anyway, just wanted to point out that we’re all subject to this kind of bullshit all the time.” We still read de Beauvoir is because she can write sentences like this: “People confuse the free woman with the loose woman.” We still read Faludi because she writes, “In times of backlash, images of restrained women line the walls of the popular culture’s gallery. We see her silenced, infantilized, immobilized, or, the ultimate restraining order, killed” (from Backlash, p. 70). Where Valenti is self-absorbed, these writers are universal. Where she falls down into useless vagueness, they are precise.
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Above all else: where is Valenti hiding? If these are in fact feeble criticisms made by intelligent people, she should have no problem changing minds, and there are numerous good reasons to reach out. It would be a service to these feminists, and a service to the book. She’s acting like royalty, and posts like these are encouraging her to keep it up.
Excellent post, and thanks Joe.
I wrote one here:
http://lawandletters.blogspot.com/2007/05/female-body-dissected.html
Which was much liked at Feminist Law Professors, but not as much liked at Althouse. You can’t please every self-identifying feminist.
Well said! I haven’t read Backlash, but it’s on my list now.
Interesting post, a lot of good points made here.
Regarding your last point, “Above all else: where is Valenti hiding?”
Do you mean you’d like to see her visit other blogs and engage with the blogger’s criticisms in the comment threads? Or perhaps do a post at Feministing?
I’m the first to say that just because someone is talking about you or linking to you, doesn’t mean you have to respond.
However…
I’ve only seen Valenti leave comments at blogs when they give a positive review of her book or show enthusiasm, but I’ve stopped looking for reviews since I posted my link roundup at BlogHer.
And — I must admit, I’ve been wondering the same thing: where is she? Is she reading these posts, and if so, what does she think?
Perhaps that’s asking for too much transparency (?) but presumeably she wants to engage with people about feminisms, and particularly her brand of feminism, put forth in this book.
Just my two cents. As always, I could be wrong! :D ;)
There are colleges where they have bells to announce the end of class?
Yes. Movie magic!
Melinda,
I’d like to see her do another post at Feministing, exactly, beginning with her culling the response down to reasonable critics like Sylvia.
She has a lot of options. She could even say, “my book could not do everything, but here are some things that I consider supplements to it.” That would be quick, nonconfrontational, and generous.
I don’t think it’s egregious to ask a blogger for transparency; the whole point is turn blogging into something that endures, rather than something manipulated by and subordinated to more conventional forms of celebrity.
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Very thoughtful post. I do have to say, though, that there are times that I think it’s only reasonable for a writer to simply accept criticism without response. Quick response can lead to saying something inappropriate and not well thought out. It’s an interesting observation of yours that she only seems to be posting on blogs that are favorable to her. I wonder if that’s on purpose or just because she tends to post on blogs that she feels more aligned to, in general.
Thanks for stopping by! I agree with you that people should not feel they have to meet response deadlines. In any case, Valenti did eventually respond (interview at Feministing, plus emails to offline blogger email lists), and did a poor job of it — it became exhausting to reiterate that everybody knew who the target audience was, and most reviewers read the book, and very few cared that Valenti happened to be white. We can take comfort in the fact that the war brought deserved attention to bloggers like BlackAmazon, Brownfemipower, and petitpoussin.
Well, and to FR, but who’s counting? ;)
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I realize that this thread is rather old, but I wanted to say that I loved Jessica Valenti’s book. Yes, it could have been written in better language; yes, she could have covered more/better topics. But even though some educated people do not care for how it was written, it appeals to the less educated specifically. It is more a book for those who are not familiar with feminist concepts than those who are (and would rather read some of the aforementioned books).
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Personally I liked the book, it was my first time being introduced to it. It seemed more entertaining than anything but her way of speaking was more on a level to reach out to younger women (in a slang and radical way) who are not as familiar with feminism or just the basic knowledge of things every girl’s mom should be telling her. Not so much geared toward an older audience of “old school feminist”. I don’t think she could challenge those women. I myself being a GWS major learning much of the readings from famous women for the first time, such as Judith Butler or de Beauvoir, bell hooks and others I have questioned the lack of my own professors not being more thorough with these readings and their style of speaking. I don’t know if its because lack of time or just the curriculum they outlined.
Either way professors and people are just quickly briefing what they grasp to the earlier writings of real feminists and blurting out their thoughts. Then demonstrating a thorough analysis and full understanding to the students and to those in the public who are reading books and articles. I see this as a problem why feminism is not as strong as it use to be. People are more engaged about blogging their opinions then showing activism and sharing the knowledge of previous writings. So if Valenti has no idea herself other then to demonstrate what she could only grasp in her stylish form, then I guess I can’t blame her to much, she’s not as special as those women from an earlier era. She’s just another white girl who found her way to make money.
I can’t say I have met a woman who is a feminist, who can speak in such a sophisticated manner, we live in a different era, our way of thinking is not as constructive as it should be. And not to criticize my professors to much but I am in college to learn. If they were more concerned with quality of comprehension in the work we are given, verses the quantity of it, all of us would be enthusiastic to understanding and enjoy reading the writings of pasts feminists, then struggling to comprehend it. So we may share with our sisters, this I feel is a way of empowering each other as women to keep feminism strong.
Hi Lindsey. Nice of you to weigh in on this venerable post!
I’m sure a given college class can get frustrating if the professor is too biased or hasty in their presentation of an important writer. That said, I can’t really agree with you that feminism is suffering from a lack of reverence (blogging rather than “sharing knowledge” about other writers). The original leaders of the feminist movements were irreverent — why not the people trying to keep it going nowadays?
We’re on the same page re: Valenti.
Just so I can clarify in reference to the professors, what I meant is that some professors don”t always lead the discussions by explaining the readings of those more famous writers, more thoroughly so we as a class (mostly of women) can really open up with the subjects. Because many of the readings were written in a very sophisticated way that not everyone can translate, nor do most of us in society speak in such a way, (either did Valenti). I think if they did, all of us especially the younger women would have more to say, to identify with and make comparisons to.
Some professors don’t even discuss most of the readings we are obligated to understand and that being said, how can I understand the more complex readings from the past if we never discuss them (or it’s discussed very vaguely). Again it may be due to not having enough time for everything. However your not off by expressing bias or hastiness on their part, there’s much of that going on as well. This may have been the case when Valenti went to college, maybe its the only reason she can express herself in the way she does, to connect with a younger audience.
As for feminist blogging, my thoughts, “hey blog away” if it’s a useful tool that we can use to express and communicate with, great. However it would be really nice as men and women we could express our thoughts and have more groups that people utilized personal communication face to face, interacting more, than blogging. But if its all we have to communicate because people’s lives are busy with lack of time, then blog away:-)